Gendered Bodies, Gendered Minds: Femininity, Barriers, and why the hell don't more women apply for apprenticeship?!
Another one of the more interesting presentations at the union conference I attended a couple of months ago was "Gendered Bodies at Work" by Dr. Bob Bruno. He started his talk with a humorous story about his young daughter; apparently, her fourth-grade class was given an assignment concerning goals---what is/are your goals, and how do you plan to achieve them? His daughter decided that her goal was to have a baloney sandwich, and she gave a rather detailed account of exactly how she was going to do just that...the route home, opening the door, letting the dog out, going to the kitchen, opening the fridge door, getting the baloney....you get the idea. While her classmates were planning the trajectory of their lives from grade school to college to career, young Ms. Bruno was planning her sandwich---and her father was regarding himself as an abysmal parent and failed feminist! Well, not exactly....but he did regard it as a wake up call, and an occasion to ruminate on messages on gender and abilities.
The talk began with a discussion on masculine images in the labor movement; how images of muscular, virile men were and are consciously used to reflect strength---the physical strength of the working class in opposition to the effete elite. Images of brawn were supposed to embolden men to counter the power of the almighty dollar. This, of course, led into a rich side conversation amongst the sisters (this particular talk was held on the first day, the 'Women's Conference', so brothers in the room were vastly outnumbered) on where exactly we can find men in our locals who look like the brothers in the T-Shirts and posters, otherwise known as the "why do the guys in the logos have washboard abs, and the guys in our local have washtub abs" question. And a little wicked laughter, as our poor brothers shrugged with the general "hey, I put good money into this belly" or "ya gotta have a good shed over your tools" grin. Then we moved on.
Powerful, masculine imagery has been synonymous with organized labor practically from the start...even though throughout labor's history in the U.S., women have been front-and-center---from mill girls to the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory, from telephone operators to teachers. Women have been instrumental in broadening the horizons of what is considered to be labor issues. Organized women have often been more radical than the men. But for all our work, images--even those created, promoted and distributed by organized labor--are overwhelmingly masculine. And this set me to thinking.
In the United States, women in construction are 3% of the total. If you include only the mechanical trades, the number is lower...1%. The most recent statistic I have for my union, the IBEW, is 1.1%. Why so low? And what can we do to increase the number of women in the trades? I think images are key...to the problem, and to solutions.
Quick---what images come to mind when you hear a term like "female construction worker"? What does she look like? There are many stereotypes, none of them flattering. The reality is far less dramatic, or controversial. Hence, less press. Both my sixteen years of experience, and my avid reading on the subject have shown me that if any image of us occurs with enough frequency to be an accurate stereotype, it is this one: the single mother. Single mothers tend to outnumber both the married and the childless on the jobsite. That, and more of us tend to enter our apprenticeship from a working-poor background. Male apprentices tend to take a cut in pay on acceptance into the apprenticeship; women experience a raise. This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone; many organizations, including various women's labor coalitions and central trades' councils, promote apprenticeship as a way out of poverty, though we still struggle to find our place at the table, and poor women are motivated to stay. Some women found their way into the trades by taking a 'preapprenticeship' course; that is, an overview of many trades with both "hands-on" and classroom studies. I found my way in by applying after reading the advertisement for apprentices in the back of the newspaper.
And that's pretty much the story for most of the tradeswomen I've met in my area too. We happened upon the posting in the newspaper. The year I applied (1988), there were a handful of women who tested, but years go by in which no woman applies or tests. For every organization like Chicago Women in Trades, Oregon Tradeswomen, and Nontraditional Employment for Women, who run preapprenticeship programs and provide logistical and moral support for women entering the trades, there are hundreds of jurisdictions who do not have such a program (or, much access to that type of program).
Women who enter the trades will face hostility; it's only a matter of time. IBEW Sister Susan Eisenberg documented some of the hairier stories in her seminal work on the subject, We'll Call You If We Need You. But for all the run-ins with knuckle-draggers, frankly the jobsite is where one is least likely to find them--or, where one is most likely to succeed in smashing stereotypes. Most of the articles and discussion I've seen on the topic that has not come from tradeswomen themselves has been rife with well-meaning misconceptions and seriously lacking in depth. The jobsite is not the site where the problems begin; while it is a site to enact solutions, it's hardly the only one. Integrating women into the nontraditional field of construction is going to require structural changes in the application process for apprenticeship, more gender integration in industrial education in the public schools, and a whole lotta changing in the minds of the general public. A step into the world of construction is a trip in the Wayback Machine, where the most progressive element is the actual brotherhood on the jobsite.
First, a woman battles the misconception about her "suitability" for the job. Many women never get to the application process because they have either internalized that message or have been intimidated by countless stories of the hostility, hazing, and pure nastiness they will face. That's probably the reason that you will find more women coming from a working-poor background who both enter and stay in construction: we don't care! Being able to pay one's bills is a great incentive to shrugging off adversity, real or potential. Childcare can be a barrier to more female participation; in my area, almost all jobsites start at 7:00AM, which is the time almost all childcare (like the SCOPE program for school-age kids) opens. The few other childcare facilities that open earlier do not take "older" (meaning post-kindergarten) children. This will be a scramble for me in the near future. Apprenticeship classes are held at night, and in my area there is a dearth of evening childcare available. The apprenticeship interview can be a source of tension; I faced a roomful of older white men who were all business, had hostile looks on their faces (no one smiled), and asked such illegal questions as whether or not I was married and/or had children. They stressed the physicality of the job (I stressed that I was a gym rat who lifted weights), and asked me if I minded "foul language, as it can be rather earthy on the jobsite" (I was so tempted to say, "oh, fuck no!", but in that sea of unfriendly faces I thought I better not. Didn't want to offend anyone and blow my chance of a lifetime). And sometimes, the "just one" theory is operative, meaning female candidates are only judged against other female candidates, and the "best one" is chosen. It is thought to be discriminatory against males to have more than one woman in an apprenticeship class.
When a new woman arrives on the jobsite, there's a palpable tension amongst the brothers. The apprehension goes both ways, as the brothers are afraid of doing or saying something that will get them in trouble (the relative few knuckle-draggers have no such qualms; in the face of everyone else's quietude, their vocality can be assumed representative---not good for anyone!). New female apprentices have often had no experience in the trades, not even in high school (I was prevented from taking Industrial Ed, and that was the early '80s), and generally need more hands-on support from a journeyman, especially when there are safety risks. Women apprentices can be afraid of breaking tools, especially power tools (that was me all the way---can you imagine thinking you can fuck up a Hilti TE 76? Bwa ha ha!). And then there's the gauntlet of questions: "so, why'd ya wanna do this for a living?" repeated for years after one has topped out. And yeah, there can be actual hostile incidents (as opposed to more pedestrian mouthiness). More often than not, these are isolated incidents that involve one cowardly man, but again, with no background in the construction world it is easy to assume that these types of actions are representative. Female apprentices who want a well-rounded, thorough education must be vigilant; there is a trend towards limiting women to the "easy" stuff.
After a woman tops out, she can find herself fighting to stay employed. Brothers on the jobsite either are or can be egalitarian; men higher in the office, in the shops, are rarely so. Female journeymen can become ghettoized in the "minority calls"; and there is still a strong tendency amongst those who don't work with us to belive that we are just working to find a husband, or that when jobs are in short supply they must go to the men first...after all, they have families to support. "Minority calls" (jobs which require 6.9% nontraditional female participation because they are funded publically) are nonexistant in California becasue of the passage of Prop. 209 and this has had a negative effect on female employment. Women who top out are rarely offered the same opportunity for job longevity or advancement in their career that men are. But despite the drawbacks, most tradeswomen find their career in the building trades quite rewarding, and not just financially. Personally, I wouldn't be anywhere else!
So, with the situation as it stands, how do we increase the number of women in apprenticeships? By engaging the same qualities of resourceful and flexible thinking common in solving mechanical problems on the jobsite, that's how! Wider Opportunities for Women offers a collection of strategies and resources for girls, women, union halls, labor organizations, employers and service agencies inerested in nontraditional employment for women. Their sister site, Workplace Solutions, is especially rife with practical, down-to-earth, easily implemented practices that are cost-effective and get results. ISEEK offers a questionnaire for women considering a nontraditional path of employment. Part of the problem is circular: a lack of female representation means fewer women apply, which continues the lack of female representation, which perpetuates stereotypes and hinders female progress, and so on. Any attempt to integrate the trades must work hand-in-hand with recruitment. Critical mass is necessary to resolve the problems inherent from lack of integration. Great Britain, in their efforts to increase nontraditional employment for women, has noticed a strong correlation between careers with a high concentration of men and a skills shortage. Efforts are being made to recruit young women in secondary school, but research shows that in many cases employment stereotypes are already well in place by that time, and recommend starting strategies such as job shadowing at even earlier ages. Tradeswomens' groups in the United States have been recommending this for years, and have produced resources such as Tradeswomen, Inc.'s The Little Tradeswomens' Coloring Book a trilingual coloring book featuring women in nontraditional jobs. Hard Hatted Women offers the Painting Our Way to a Better Future coloring book, and the Cool Careers for Girls in Construction book, and "Power Tools are a girl's best friend" T-Shirts. Work4Women offers the Cool Jobs for Girls website, and the corresponding parents and educators guide here. Ms. Fixit encourages girls to explore nontraditional employment. There are several tradeswomen's organization that focus attention on this issue, such as:
A couple of good resource sites for tradeswomen include a no-nonsense legal guide from Equal Rights Advocates, the Women's Project for Union Democracy, and a site run by a sister Ironworker, here. (She also has a magnificent eulogy for one of her mentors, here.) For a good insight into the life of a tradeswoman from the application process, through apprenticeship, through journeyman status and beyond, you can't beat the humorous, fictionalized account of real-life tinner bluecollargal, entitled Hey Lady, Your Tin Snips Are Showing!. Right before Bethola and me got laid off the last job, she informed me that she was in the midst of the sequel to that, so keep yer eyes open! And IBEW sister Victoria King has written a book, Manhandled: Black Females, that takes up many issues, but support for more black women in the trades is one of them, as she outlines her experiences as a Journeyman Wireman in New York's Local 3.
Now, for La Lubu's quick and dirty guide for female apprentices:
So, how is that list any different from the advice you'd offer male apprentices, Lubu? Not much. And that's the point. Advice to brothers who are nervous working around women? Relax. Most women don't have the "sue you blues". Just be yourself. And if the brother in question is an asshole? Be someone else!
I'll be back to this subject again; I plan to offer recruiting strategies for apprenticeship councils and union halls, and strategies for employers. Stay tuned.
UPDATE: Amp has a somewhat related post on employment segration at his gig. The constuction field definitely rates as segregated, but it doesn't have to be....
The talk began with a discussion on masculine images in the labor movement; how images of muscular, virile men were and are consciously used to reflect strength---the physical strength of the working class in opposition to the effete elite. Images of brawn were supposed to embolden men to counter the power of the almighty dollar. This, of course, led into a rich side conversation amongst the sisters (this particular talk was held on the first day, the 'Women's Conference', so brothers in the room were vastly outnumbered) on where exactly we can find men in our locals who look like the brothers in the T-Shirts and posters, otherwise known as the "why do the guys in the logos have washboard abs, and the guys in our local have washtub abs" question. And a little wicked laughter, as our poor brothers shrugged with the general "hey, I put good money into this belly" or "ya gotta have a good shed over your tools" grin. Then we moved on.
Powerful, masculine imagery has been synonymous with organized labor practically from the start...even though throughout labor's history in the U.S., women have been front-and-center---from mill girls to the Triangle Shirtwaist Factory, from telephone operators to teachers. Women have been instrumental in broadening the horizons of what is considered to be labor issues. Organized women have often been more radical than the men. But for all our work, images--even those created, promoted and distributed by organized labor--are overwhelmingly masculine. And this set me to thinking.
In the United States, women in construction are 3% of the total. If you include only the mechanical trades, the number is lower...1%. The most recent statistic I have for my union, the IBEW, is 1.1%. Why so low? And what can we do to increase the number of women in the trades? I think images are key...to the problem, and to solutions.
Quick---what images come to mind when you hear a term like "female construction worker"? What does she look like? There are many stereotypes, none of them flattering. The reality is far less dramatic, or controversial. Hence, less press. Both my sixteen years of experience, and my avid reading on the subject have shown me that if any image of us occurs with enough frequency to be an accurate stereotype, it is this one: the single mother. Single mothers tend to outnumber both the married and the childless on the jobsite. That, and more of us tend to enter our apprenticeship from a working-poor background. Male apprentices tend to take a cut in pay on acceptance into the apprenticeship; women experience a raise. This shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone; many organizations, including various women's labor coalitions and central trades' councils, promote apprenticeship as a way out of poverty, though we still struggle to find our place at the table, and poor women are motivated to stay. Some women found their way into the trades by taking a 'preapprenticeship' course; that is, an overview of many trades with both "hands-on" and classroom studies. I found my way in by applying after reading the advertisement for apprentices in the back of the newspaper.
And that's pretty much the story for most of the tradeswomen I've met in my area too. We happened upon the posting in the newspaper. The year I applied (1988), there were a handful of women who tested, but years go by in which no woman applies or tests. For every organization like Chicago Women in Trades, Oregon Tradeswomen, and Nontraditional Employment for Women, who run preapprenticeship programs and provide logistical and moral support for women entering the trades, there are hundreds of jurisdictions who do not have such a program (or, much access to that type of program).
Women who enter the trades will face hostility; it's only a matter of time. IBEW Sister Susan Eisenberg documented some of the hairier stories in her seminal work on the subject, We'll Call You If We Need You. But for all the run-ins with knuckle-draggers, frankly the jobsite is where one is least likely to find them--or, where one is most likely to succeed in smashing stereotypes. Most of the articles and discussion I've seen on the topic that has not come from tradeswomen themselves has been rife with well-meaning misconceptions and seriously lacking in depth. The jobsite is not the site where the problems begin; while it is a site to enact solutions, it's hardly the only one. Integrating women into the nontraditional field of construction is going to require structural changes in the application process for apprenticeship, more gender integration in industrial education in the public schools, and a whole lotta changing in the minds of the general public. A step into the world of construction is a trip in the Wayback Machine, where the most progressive element is the actual brotherhood on the jobsite.
First, a woman battles the misconception about her "suitability" for the job. Many women never get to the application process because they have either internalized that message or have been intimidated by countless stories of the hostility, hazing, and pure nastiness they will face. That's probably the reason that you will find more women coming from a working-poor background who both enter and stay in construction: we don't care! Being able to pay one's bills is a great incentive to shrugging off adversity, real or potential. Childcare can be a barrier to more female participation; in my area, almost all jobsites start at 7:00AM, which is the time almost all childcare (like the SCOPE program for school-age kids) opens. The few other childcare facilities that open earlier do not take "older" (meaning post-kindergarten) children. This will be a scramble for me in the near future. Apprenticeship classes are held at night, and in my area there is a dearth of evening childcare available. The apprenticeship interview can be a source of tension; I faced a roomful of older white men who were all business, had hostile looks on their faces (no one smiled), and asked such illegal questions as whether or not I was married and/or had children. They stressed the physicality of the job (I stressed that I was a gym rat who lifted weights), and asked me if I minded "foul language, as it can be rather earthy on the jobsite" (I was so tempted to say, "oh, fuck no!", but in that sea of unfriendly faces I thought I better not. Didn't want to offend anyone and blow my chance of a lifetime). And sometimes, the "just one" theory is operative, meaning female candidates are only judged against other female candidates, and the "best one" is chosen. It is thought to be discriminatory against males to have more than one woman in an apprenticeship class.
When a new woman arrives on the jobsite, there's a palpable tension amongst the brothers. The apprehension goes both ways, as the brothers are afraid of doing or saying something that will get them in trouble (the relative few knuckle-draggers have no such qualms; in the face of everyone else's quietude, their vocality can be assumed representative---not good for anyone!). New female apprentices have often had no experience in the trades, not even in high school (I was prevented from taking Industrial Ed, and that was the early '80s), and generally need more hands-on support from a journeyman, especially when there are safety risks. Women apprentices can be afraid of breaking tools, especially power tools (that was me all the way---can you imagine thinking you can fuck up a Hilti TE 76? Bwa ha ha!). And then there's the gauntlet of questions: "so, why'd ya wanna do this for a living?" repeated for years after one has topped out. And yeah, there can be actual hostile incidents (as opposed to more pedestrian mouthiness). More often than not, these are isolated incidents that involve one cowardly man, but again, with no background in the construction world it is easy to assume that these types of actions are representative. Female apprentices who want a well-rounded, thorough education must be vigilant; there is a trend towards limiting women to the "easy" stuff.
After a woman tops out, she can find herself fighting to stay employed. Brothers on the jobsite either are or can be egalitarian; men higher in the office, in the shops, are rarely so. Female journeymen can become ghettoized in the "minority calls"; and there is still a strong tendency amongst those who don't work with us to belive that we are just working to find a husband, or that when jobs are in short supply they must go to the men first...after all, they have families to support. "Minority calls" (jobs which require 6.9% nontraditional female participation because they are funded publically) are nonexistant in California becasue of the passage of Prop. 209 and this has had a negative effect on female employment. Women who top out are rarely offered the same opportunity for job longevity or advancement in their career that men are. But despite the drawbacks, most tradeswomen find their career in the building trades quite rewarding, and not just financially. Personally, I wouldn't be anywhere else!
So, with the situation as it stands, how do we increase the number of women in apprenticeships? By engaging the same qualities of resourceful and flexible thinking common in solving mechanical problems on the jobsite, that's how! Wider Opportunities for Women offers a collection of strategies and resources for girls, women, union halls, labor organizations, employers and service agencies inerested in nontraditional employment for women. Their sister site, Workplace Solutions, is especially rife with practical, down-to-earth, easily implemented practices that are cost-effective and get results. ISEEK offers a questionnaire for women considering a nontraditional path of employment. Part of the problem is circular: a lack of female representation means fewer women apply, which continues the lack of female representation, which perpetuates stereotypes and hinders female progress, and so on. Any attempt to integrate the trades must work hand-in-hand with recruitment. Critical mass is necessary to resolve the problems inherent from lack of integration. Great Britain, in their efforts to increase nontraditional employment for women, has noticed a strong correlation between careers with a high concentration of men and a skills shortage. Efforts are being made to recruit young women in secondary school, but research shows that in many cases employment stereotypes are already well in place by that time, and recommend starting strategies such as job shadowing at even earlier ages. Tradeswomens' groups in the United States have been recommending this for years, and have produced resources such as Tradeswomen, Inc.'s The Little Tradeswomens' Coloring Book a trilingual coloring book featuring women in nontraditional jobs. Hard Hatted Women offers the Painting Our Way to a Better Future coloring book, and the Cool Careers for Girls in Construction book, and "Power Tools are a girl's best friend" T-Shirts. Work4Women offers the Cool Jobs for Girls website, and the corresponding parents and educators guide here. Ms. Fixit encourages girls to explore nontraditional employment. There are several tradeswomen's organization that focus attention on this issue, such as:
- Tradeswomen, Inc.
- Chicago Women in Trades
- National Association of Women in Construction
- Tradeswomen Now and Tomorrow
- Hard Hatted Women
- Oregon Tradeswomen
- Nontraditional Employment for Women
A couple of good resource sites for tradeswomen include a no-nonsense legal guide from Equal Rights Advocates, the Women's Project for Union Democracy, and a site run by a sister Ironworker, here. (She also has a magnificent eulogy for one of her mentors, here.) For a good insight into the life of a tradeswoman from the application process, through apprenticeship, through journeyman status and beyond, you can't beat the humorous, fictionalized account of real-life tinner bluecollargal, entitled Hey Lady, Your Tin Snips Are Showing!. Right before Bethola and me got laid off the last job, she informed me that she was in the midst of the sequel to that, so keep yer eyes open! And IBEW sister Victoria King has written a book, Manhandled: Black Females, that takes up many issues, but support for more black women in the trades is one of them, as she outlines her experiences as a Journeyman Wireman in New York's Local 3.
Now, for La Lubu's quick and dirty guide for female apprentices:
- Keep your eyes open, your mouth shut, and your nose to the grindstone.
- Remember that your enemies are few and your allies are many. Allies tend to be quieter than enemies, but they're out there. Don't allow yourself to fall prey to the same stereotyping process you are subjected to. When in doubt, refer to rule #1.
- Your allies will come in every size, shape, color and gender; with that said, you will notice that your staunchest allies will tend to be older journeymen and veterans. Why? Well, the Old School has a strong sense of "all for one, one for all" unionism, and a strong work ethic. If you have a strong work ethic, they will respect you. Also, older men have experienced their own form of discrimination, and that tempers their view. Older female journeymen have generally gone through the wringer, and most will keep a lookout for you. Veterans? Well, the armed forces are more integrated racially, ethnically and by gender than just about any other work force in the U.S. A strong work ethic is stressed there, also. (remember rule #1!) More often than not, a person leaves their round of service with less bigotry and a more open mind than before. They have also had the opportunity to see women performing nontraditional work, so they're not going to experience culture shock when you come on the jobsite.
- Always complete your apprenticeship assignments on time, always attend class, and study hard for your tests!
- There is no such thing as a stupid question. When in doubt, ask. After all, no one expects an apprentice to know shit, anyway. And few things are more irritating than a know-it-all, won't listen apprentice.
- If there is hot, cold, dirty, nasty, tough work, be Janie on the spot for it. Don't ever cop out on the rough stuff. Some guys can get away with it. You can't. So don't.
- Be aggressive in your work. Ask questions and take the initiative. The construction site can be a chaotic environment at times, but stay busy. And don't ever stand with your hands in your pockets.
- Gain as much breadth of experience in your apprenticeship as you can. If there's a facet of your trade you haven't learned, ask for an assignment for that, even if you have to take a job transfer. Subscribe to trade journals (they're free). Go to trade shows (they're free too, plus you can win door prizes of new tools, and if you're a smooth operator, sometimes you can sweet-talk sales reps out of cool tools. It's fun to try, anyway!).
- You will be tested. Don't sweat the small stuff. How will you know if it's the "small stuff"? Ask yourself: does it affect my work record, paycheck, or job performance? If the answer is no, it's small stuff.
- On the other hand, if you experience a real problem, you don't have to tolerate it. But always follow the chain of command. First, approach the individual presenting the problem. If that doesn't work, take it up the chain: to your journeyman, to the steward, to your foreman, if necessary. If none of those people can solve the problem, speak with a business rep at your union hall. Keep a job diary; a job diary is a worker's best friend. What's a job diary? A journal of dates, dates, times, and what you did on various days....what your job duties were, who you worked with, where you worked, that sort of thing. And of course, anything problematic. Chances are, you'll never need it.
- Get involved in your local union! Attend meetings, and if you can, volunteer for committees. It's a good way to meet other people in your hall. You will get out of your union what you put into it---just like anything else in life. You may also want to join various other labor organizations such as the Coalition of Labor Union Women, the Coalition of Black Trade Unionists (naah, you don't have to be black), or the A. Philip Randolph Institute.
- Be politically active. Get involved with issues affecting working people. Volunteer time to political candidates and causes that are pro-labor. Historically, labor has won more and lost more through the political arena than any other avenue. Keep this in mind at election time. Vote your paycheck!
So, how is that list any different from the advice you'd offer male apprentices, Lubu? Not much. And that's the point. Advice to brothers who are nervous working around women? Relax. Most women don't have the "sue you blues". Just be yourself. And if the brother in question is an asshole? Be someone else!
I'll be back to this subject again; I plan to offer recruiting strategies for apprenticeship councils and union halls, and strategies for employers. Stay tuned.
UPDATE: Amp has a somewhat related post on employment segration at his gig. The constuction field definitely rates as segregated, but it doesn't have to be....

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Thanks! One of my New Year's Resolutions is to post more often, and dedicate more of my time here, rather than commenting on everyone else's blog! I've got a bad tendency to think everything's gotta be a big "tour-de-force" type post, rather than just getting in here and doing it. Latent perfectionism combined with procrastination is not a good thing.
Part of why I started this blog is because I literally went everywhere for years, trying to find something similar! I found sites like the Oregon Tradeswomen fairly early on, but most of those groups are really hanging on by the skin of their teeth. The women who started them are retiring or have multiple committments now; younger women in the trades are not replacing them. Tradeswomen, Inc. used to have a monthly magazine, but doesn't anymore. I really thirsted for some sign that I wasn't alone out here in the desert; when I first started using a computer, bluecollargal didn't have her book or website, either. Between looking for Sicilian sites and looking for tradeswomens' sites, I came up with very little...so I figured I better step up to the plate. If even one sister out there finds this site and thinks "great!", well then, I'll have done my job. I still think my sidebar is the best part of the blog!
Susan Eisenberg's book is a good one; I have that and her poetry book, Pioneering, which also concerns the jobsite. I first encountered her poetry through the old Mill Hunk Herald, a (defunct) periodical from your old 'neck of the woods' you may be familiar with. So, when her book came out, I had to get it. When I was pregnant, I was pretty much out in the cold; no woman in my local has gone there before (although one had her son before entering the trade)! I found Sister Eisenberg's email on the 'net, and wrote to her. Her advice and connections were a godsend for me.
I plan on posting more often after the holidays, and Umana Cosa will not be limited to Fridays. Buon Natale! And may your holidays be filled with love and garlic!
Just a comment on the story mentioned in the first paragraph: seems to me that the speaker should be proud that he's raising a rebel! Asking kids in the fourth grade to get their whole lives planned out is ridiculous! Where I would want my child's attention focused at that age is mastering the skills of reading, writing, and arithmetic, to begin learning to think critically, to learn how to draw. Her piece on getting the baloney sandwich may be nothing less than an affecting satire on our educational system which seems to be determined to knock us round pegs into square holes at the earliest possible age.
Living one day at a time is actually not bad policy for the rest of life. That girl has a lot to teach us adults IMHO.
Heh heh. Yeah, Joel...the take from the whole rest of the room, including myself, was "sounds like she knows exactly what she wants! She's gonna go far in this world!" and I think her father knew that too....but he also feared that maybe her vision was a little limited, that she was afraid to set her sights high, or maybe reveal them to others.
I remember in the third grade having to do some sorta art project with the letters in my name, making them into objects that I would use in my future career. My future career? Rock Star. I was soundly laughed out of the room for that, but at least I had the guts to say it!
Lubu,
I too have often wondered at the lack of women working in the electrical trades. I've worked with only a handful of women, both Journeymen and Apprentices, in the last 20 years out of LU 716 in Houston.
A few years ago my daughter was interested in becoming an Electrician and I was very proud that she would follow in my footsteps. The IBEW and the Electrical trade has been good to me over the years and allowed me to raise a family
Lubu,
I too have often wondered at the lack of women working in the electrical trades. I've worked with only a handful of women, both Journeymen and Apprentices, in the last 20 years out of LU 716 in Houston.
A few years ago my daughter was interested in becoming an Electrician and I was very proud that she would follow in my footsteps. The IBEW and the Electrical trade has been good to me over the years and allowed me to raise a family and provide a good standard of living for them.
I was of course concerned that she would run into many of the troubles that your post describes. I tried to discuss with her weekly if not daily any problems she was running into.
I also discussed with her the job of the apprentice and what it entailed. I sure wish I had had your list of "work sugggestions" which I found to be right on the money for all apprentices, not just women. She laughed when I told her how many ditches I dug as an apprentice, miles of them it seems. She assured me, that there was no problem, and she could handle it fine, which I already knew she could.
I remember the first call she took from the Apprenticeship School. The first job she was given involved the business end of a shovel. She laughed about it when she got home. And she did stick with it.
I don't recall her ever telling me about any problems she had on the job. She did well in school. And she liked the outdoor nature of the work. The problems I assumed she would have, with the men on the job, never materialized. Or more likely if they did, she handled them and didnt tell me. I didn't raise her shy.
There are always problems on jobs for individual apprentices. Boorish JIW's, Foremen and GF. And for women, the everpresent what I call the "prison syndrome" where any woman on the sites becomes the center of attention for the men as though they hadn't seen a woman in the last 20 years.
I was very proud of her that she was able to deal with both the extra attention and the generic problems, on her own, as any other apprentice has to.
But ultimately, in her second year, she had to drop out. Pregnant with my first grandson. After he was born, and a year or so later, I called the school to see if she could be reinstated and continue where she left off, and they wanted her to do so. But, unfortunately, she didn't choose to. A year later and my granddaughter (the apple of her pawpaws eye) was born.
My daugher often lamented that she wished that she had continued. She liked the work although, it was not ultimately the career she chose to continue to educate herself in.
Our hall *is* inclusive. The negative stereotypes of the hall being all non-minority and non-women are just not representative of the IBEW today. However, even though our hall has had ads in the paper (not much lately with 1000 JIW's on the books), and minority participation is at an all time high, women continue to stay away in droves.
In my observations, much of it is economic. Between the lack of increases in wages being negociated and the increased inclusion of women in other fields that pay more, women (and men too) are less inclined to take $9 an hour to start out as an apprentice, which, lets admit, can be a hard dirty job.
Are there problems for women on the jobsite? You betcha. Just as there are for women in tradtional jobs where men and women work together. I just don't think the nature of the work much matters anymore. Society in my opinion is becoming more boorish in general.
I myself have moved on to an office type environment and I see the same problems there as I saw on the jobsite. I have noted that the key to controlling boorish behavior is a strong company policy of diciplining such behavior. The idea that you can eliminate lame behavior in everyone is fantasy. Expecting to lose your job if you are an asshole is an effective means of helping people mind their manners.
I enjoyed your site... it was well written and interesting
Best regards,
Michael
IBEW LU 716
Houston, Texas
Sounds like you know your stuff. Have you thought about teaching on the weekends at a community college? Teaching women how to build or repair things?
I wanted to learn many years ago, but gave up after all the hostility. Considering all the childsexual abuse I endured, I just wanted to avoid men like the plague. I'd rather be taught by a woman, and I can't be the only one.
There is still a large segment of the population who would like to see women go back to the kitchen, and would enforce that by law if they could. I'm just now waking up to the fact that women's equality is precarious, something not to be taken for granted. Many people still have backwards views of women, and it makes me sick.
You really do sound as if you could do great things for people's perception of women. It occured to me that if you didn't want the hassle of a community college gig, you might consider doing a program for girls with your local park district. Tell 'em it's for building bird houses or something, I'm sure there's lots of ideas if you google. You'd blow their minds when you casually talk about your job!
And a career day thingie at your local high school, probably only talking for a half hour or less. Wonder how many girls would jump at the chance to learn a trade, if they only knew they could...
Please consider it, even though your schedule is probably already full. Do something your kid would like! When I think about all the girls being indocrinated by the fundies into a life of servitude, my heart weeps.
Apologies for even suggesting adding to whatever burdens you already have, it just seems as if you are uniquely qualified to influence many, many people.
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